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01/25/2011 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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08:05:11 AM Overview: Dcced - New Division of Economic Development
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
 HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL                                                               
                       TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                                      
                        January 25, 2011                                                                                        
                           8:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz, Chair                                                                                      
Representative Neal Foster, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Representative Alan Dick                                                                                                        
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:  DCCED - NEW DIVISION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN BELL, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a brief overview  of the Department                                                            
of Commerce, Community & Economic Development.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
WANETTA AYERS, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Economic Development                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a  presentation of the  Division of                                                            
Economic Development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CATHY ENGSTROM  MUNOZ called the joint meeting  of the House                                                            
Community and  Regional Affairs  Standing Committee and  the House                                                              
Special  Committee on  Economic  Development, International  Trade                                                              
and  Tourism to  order  at  8:04 a.m.  Representatives  Austerman,                                                              
Foster, Dick,  Saddler, Thompson,  Herron, and Munoz  were present                                                              
at  the  call  to  order.    Representatives  Cissna  and  Gardner                                                              
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Overview:  DCCED - New Division of Economic Development                                                                        
    Overview:  DCCED - New Division of Economic Development                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:05:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MUNOZ  announced  that  the two  committees  would  hear  a                                                              
presentation  from Department  of Commerce,  Community &  Economic                                                              
Development  (DCCED)  regarding  the  merger of  the  Division  of                                                              
Investments  and  the  Division  of  Economic  Development.    The                                                              
aforementioned  merger   was  the  result  of  a   charge  led  by                                                              
Representative Austerman  last year  to determine how  those state                                                              
agencies that  are focused on  economic development  and community                                                              
development, particularly DCCED, could be most effective.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:06:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN informed  the committee  that two  years                                                              
ago when  he sat  on the  DCCED Finance  Subcommittee, it  quickly                                                              
became  apparent  that  economic  development had  fallen  by  the                                                              
wayside  while the  community  and regional  affairs  side of  the                                                              
department was  strong.   Since that time,  the governor  has made                                                              
some major  changes in  DCCED, such  as appointing a  commissioner                                                              
with an  economic development background.   This  new commissioner                                                              
has  already  made  changes  that  he has  been  pleased  to  see,                                                              
particularly in  terms of the  strong emphasis on  returning focus                                                              
to economic development.     Representative Austerman  pointed out                                                              
that communities will  only function properly if there  is a solid                                                              
economic  base  within  the  state.   However,  he  cautioned  the                                                              
committees  to  ensure  that the  focus  on  economic  development                                                              
pendulum  doesn't  go  too  far  and diminish  the  focus  on  the                                                              
community and regional affairs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:08:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   HERRON   noted   his   appreciation   for   Representative                                                              
Austerman's  comments as it  was imperative  to make some  changes                                                              
[in DCCED].  He  emphasized that it's in the best  interest of the                                                              
two committees to ensure [the changes] work.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:10:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  BELL, Commissioner,  Department  of  Commerce, Community  &                                                              
Economic  Development  (DCCED),   referring  to  the  presentation                                                              
entitled  "Promoting a  Healthy economy  and Strong  Communities",                                                              
highlighted DCCED's  broad mission  to promote a  healthy economy,                                                              
strong communities,  and protect consumers in Alaska.   In working                                                              
toward  the  aforementioned  mission,   DCCED  ensures  there  are                                                              
programs  that focus  on sustainable  economic growth  and that  a                                                              
stable business  climate is provided  while also assisting  in the                                                              
development  of  sustainable  energy systems  and  addressing  the                                                              
cost of energy  in rural Alaska in particular.   Commissioner Bell                                                              
emphasized DCCED's  important role in ensuring  the sustainability                                                              
of  communities  throughout  the   state,  which  results  in  the                                                              
department  interacting  with  a  wide  array  of  communities  of                                                              
various sizes.   She  then directed  the committees' attention  to                                                              
slide  5, which  specifies  the six  core  agencies within  DCCED.                                                              
She  then reviewed  slide  5 entitled  "Department  Organization",                                                              
which  specifies  the  corporate  agencies  as well  as  the  core                                                              
agencies of the  department.  She noted that the  department has a                                                              
different relationship  with each of the corporate  agencies.  For                                                              
instance,  sometimes  department   staff  sit  on  the  board  and                                                              
sometimes  department  staff  is  engaged  in  the  administrative                                                              
functions  of accounting  or  other  support services  while  with                                                              
some  corporate  agencies  the  department  has  an  arm's  length                                                              
relationship.   Two  of the  more  independent corporate  entities                                                              
are  the Regulatory  Commission  of Alaska  (RCA)  and the  Alaska                                                              
Railroad  Corporation (ARRC).    Still, the  department's  mission                                                              
remains.     She  briefly  touched   on  consumer   protection  by                                                              
highlighting the  department's regulatory entities,  which include                                                              
the Division of  Banking & Securities, the Division  of Insurance,                                                              
the Division of  Corporations, Business &  Professional Licensing,                                                              
and  the  Regulatory  Commission  of Alaska.    Commissioner  Bell                                                              
moved on  to slide 6 entitled  "Who We Are",  which uses a  map to                                                              
illustrate  that DCCED's presence  is throughout  the state.   The                                                              
department has 10  locations and 538 employees.  Commissioner Bell                                                              
recalled  the  pivotal  meeting   with  the  House  Community  and                                                              
Regional  Affairs  Standing  Committee  last  year  in  which  the                                                              
department  concurred  with  many  of the  committee's  ideas  and                                                              
brought many  of its  own ideas forward.   She characterized  this                                                              
merger as providing framework as the department moves forward.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:16:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WANETTA  AYERS,   Director,  Division  of   Economic  Development,                                                              
Department   of  Commerce,   Community   &  Economic   Development                                                              
(DCCED), began  by informing  the committees  that she is  a life-                                                              
long Alaskan  who has spent  most of her  career in  community and                                                              
economic  development, primarily  focused  in rural  Alaska.   She                                                              
then  directed the  committees'  attention  to slide  8  "Economic                                                              
Development  defined   ..."  that   provides  the  definition   of                                                              
economic  development   adopted  by  the  International   Economic                                                              
Development  Council (IEDC).   The focus,  she highlighted,  is on                                                              
the  economic well-being  and quality  of life  for all  Alaskans.                                                              
The aforementioned  is dependent upon creating jobs  and providing                                                              
a  stable  tax  base.    In  reference   to  slide  9,  Ms.  Ayers                                                              
highlighted that economic development takes place over the long-                                                                
term  with focus  on the future  economy.   She then  moved  on to                                                              
slide   10  entitled   "Cluster   Development  Framework",   which                                                              
illustrates the  need to focus  on trade sector  industries, those                                                              
trade  sector industries  and  businesses  that export  goods  and                                                              
services  from Alaska.    The trade  sectors  and  the network  of                                                              
supplier  firms  that  support  the trade  sectors  are  what  the                                                              
private  sector does.    The economic  foundation  of the  cluster                                                              
development framework  is in which  everyone participates  and can                                                              
be worked on to  make the trade sectors and supplier  network more                                                              
efficient.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:20:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  continued on to  slide 11 entitled "Examining  Economic                                                              
Development".   She  reminded  the committee  of  the December  4,                                                              
2010,   House   Special   Committee   on   Economic   Development,                                                              
International  Trade   and  Tourism,  which  helped   to  catalyze                                                              
discussions  regarding   how  to  better  organize   in  terms  of                                                              
economic development.   During the course of  the last legislative                                                              
session,  there   were  also   conversations  regarding   economic                                                              
development  which  proved to  be  very helpful,  particularly  in                                                              
terms  of framing  what has  happened since  then.   Concurrently,                                                              
the Alaska Forward  Initiative was occurring, which,  as the quote                                                              
on slide  12 illustrates, was  very critical of  Alaska's economic                                                              
development system.   The assessment was  that there was  a lot of                                                              
fragmentation  and   resources  weren't  being  aligned   for  the                                                              
highest  and  best  purpose.   Ms.  Ayers  related  that  economic                                                              
development is a  priority for Governor Parnell as  related in the                                                              
quote presented  on slide 13.   As a result of  the aforementioned                                                              
Governor Parnell  issued Administrative  Order 257,  which created                                                              
the Division  of Economic  Development from  the former  Office of                                                              
Economic   Development   and   the    Division   of   Investments.                                                              
Therefore,   one   cohesive   operating    unit   that   addresses                                                              
development  and financing activities  was created.   Such  a unit                                                              
will  help   focus  and   facilitate  restructuring   the  state's                                                              
economic development  mechanisms within state government.   Within                                                              
this new  division, work  will be done  to create operational  and                                                              
cost  efficiencies  as well  as  lay  the foundation  for  various                                                              
improvements.    Since  some  of the  key  foundational  work  for                                                              
economic  development isn't  addressed  by statute  or the  former                                                              
organization of  the two units, the  new division will  need to do                                                              
more  with  the  following:    business   outreach  and  technical                                                              
assistance, marketing  and promotion of financing  tools, outreach                                                              
and development  of traditional  targeted  industries, as  well as                                                              
development  of emerging  growth  industries.   Additionally,  the                                                              
Division   of   Economic   Development  wants   to   work   toward                                                              
overarching marketing  and branding of Alaska,  expanding business                                                              
outreach   and  technical   assistance,   and  expanding   finance                                                              
programs.   Further, a key area  of focus for the division  is the                                                              
coordination  of  a  multiagency,   multidisciplinary  development                                                              
response  because  no  one  department   or  agency  within  state                                                              
government can fully address economic development.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:26:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  then directed  the committees'  attention to  slide 16,                                                              
which addresses the  impact of staff across the state.   The chart                                                              
on slide 16 specifies  the staff by duty station  and section.  As                                                              
the chart  specifies, most  of the  division's staff continues  to                                                              
be located  in the Financing  Section in  Juneau.  She  noted that                                                              
by statute  the division has  ongoing responsibility for  a public                                                              
lands information center  in Tok.  The chart on  slide 17 entitled                                                              
"Annual  State Loan  Fund Report  FY 2010" relates  the number  of                                                              
new loans closed  in the last fiscal year by loan  fund as well as                                                              
the  total principal  on  loans closed,  which  was $17.1  million                                                              
last  year.   Slide 18  entitled "FY2010  Loan Servicing  Summary"                                                              
provides a  summary of all loan  servicing within the  last fiscal                                                              
year.  The division  has over 2,500 accounts  with total principal                                                              
outstanding  of $197.5 million.   Ms.  Ayers continued  with slide                                                              
19  entitled "New  Financing Tools",  which  is a  summary of  the                                                              
Alaska  microloan  revolving  loan fund,  the  commercial  charter                                                              
fisheries  revolving  loan  fund, and  the  mariculture  revolving                                                              
loan  fund  each of  which  developed  from discussions  with  the                                                              
private sector.   The need for  this public financing  was because                                                              
these  areas  were  not served  or  were  underserved  by  private                                                              
lenders.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:29:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER inquired  as  to how  these new  financing                                                              
tools for  commercial fishing  will interact  with the  Commercial                                                              
Fishing and Agriculture Bank (CFAB).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS explained  that although  CFAB is  addressed in  Alaska                                                              
statute, it  is a traditional  private sector lender  and operates                                                              
under  the   same  parameters   as  any   private  lender.     The                                                              
[department]  has partnered with  CFAB in the  past.   She pointed                                                              
out that  [the department's] borrowers  need to be turned  down by                                                              
a private lender first.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER   related   his  understanding   from   a                                                              
presentation from  the Division  of Agriculture in  the Department                                                              
of  Natural Resources  that the  agriculture  revolving loan  fund                                                              
can cover shell fish loans.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS said  that she  didn't realize  there had  been such  a                                                              
determination.   However,  the  division's  development staff  and                                                              
economists   have   been   working   with   existing   mariculture                                                              
operators, primarily  in Southeast  and Southcentral Alaska.   The                                                              
agriculture  revolving  loan  fund  is  operated in  DNR  and  its                                                              
operating  parameters   are  a   bit  different  than   in  DCCED.                                                              
Therefore,   the  division   has  been   working  with   potential                                                              
borrowers  and  others  promoting   the  mariculture  industry  to                                                              
structure the  mariculture loan specifically  to the needs  of the                                                              
mariculture  industry.   She  explained  that depending  upon  the                                                              
borrowers  product  mix, it  could  take  three  to six  years  to                                                              
develop a  reliable revenue  stream.   Therefore, the  mariculture                                                              
revolving loan  fund is designed  to be the patience  capital that                                                              
would  have interest  only payments  during those  first three  to                                                              
six years until a reliable revenue stream is developed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BELL  interjected that at stages when  the governor's                                                              
office  and   the  legislative  director  were   comfortable,  the                                                              
concepts   were  vetted   through   [DCCED's]  economic   advisory                                                              
council.   The aforementioned is  a group of about  20 individuals                                                              
from different  economic sectors, including the  banking industry.                                                              
She  then noted  that [the  department]  also spoke  with CFAB  to                                                              
understand  what  is good  public  policy  in terms  of  providing                                                              
financing   opportunities,  retaining   Alaskan  employment,   and                                                              
supporting entrepreneurs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:33:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER related his  appreciation for  Commissioner                                                              
Bell's  and Ms.  Ayer's  backgrounds  in rural  Alaska.   He  also                                                              
related his  belief that  both will  serve the  state well.   With                                                              
regard   to   the   Alaska   microloan    revolving   loan   fund,                                                              
Representative  Foster   characterized  it  as  a   good  program,                                                              
particularly for  those in rural Alaska.   He then inquired  as to                                                              
how  the   division  would  communicate   the  program   to  those                                                              
locations in the Bush where the agency does not have a presence.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS  reminded  the  committees  that  in  addition  to  the                                                              
division's  development  staff  the  Alaska  Regional  Development                                                              
Organization (ARDOR)  program provides  12 outlets.   Furthermore,                                                              
the division  has relationships  with lots of other  organizations                                                              
and  through the  Division  of Community  &  Regional Affairs  the                                                              
division  has access to  tribal and  municipal organizations  that                                                              
are  involved with  economic development.   She  related that  she                                                              
believes the  microloan revolving loan  fund will be  very welcome                                                              
in rural Alaska and thus she anticipated much activity with it.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:35:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN  related   his  understanding  that  now                                                              
DCCED  has only  one deputy  commissioner rather  than two  deputy                                                              
commissioners,  one on  the rural  side  and one  on the  economic                                                              
development side.   He related his further understanding  that the                                                              
former  deputy commissioner  on  the rural  side has  been made  a                                                              
special assistant.   He inquired as to the difference  in this new                                                              
organization.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISISONER    BELL    confirmed    Representative    Austerman's                                                              
recollection of  there being two  deputy commissioners  last year.                                                              
Commissioner  Bell explained  that  with the  anticipated  merger,                                                              
she took into  account the size of the department,  the geographic                                                              
locations  of the staff,  the involvement  in various  subcabinets                                                              
and commissions;  she felt  comfortable proceeding  with  a single                                                              
deputy commissioner  and two special assistants one  in Juneau and                                                              
one in  Anchorage.   The special assistant  in Anchorage  has been                                                              
tasked  with   some  priority  projects,  which   include  Connect                                                              
Alaska,  broad band,  and  the Rural  Subcabinet.   The  Anchorage                                                              
special  assistant  is also  tasked  with developing  a  long-term                                                              
strategy   for   international    trade   with   the   Office   of                                                              
International Trade and the Film Office.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:38:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN inquired  as to  who is responsible  for                                                              
rural development and community affairs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL clarified that  unlike the  past; now  both the                                                              
commissioner  and the  deputy  commissioner  are directly  engaged                                                              
with all the divisions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:39:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON, referring  to  slide  17, inquired  as  to why  the                                                              
average statutory  interest  rate for the  Rural Development  Fund                                                              
is 6 percent while the rate for the other funds is lower.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS explained  that  DCCED  manages the  Rural  Development                                                              
Fund  run on  behalf  of  the Alaska  Industrial  Development  and                                                              
Export Authority  (AIDEA).   The fund  was capitalized  through an                                                              
appropriation   from  the   Economic  Development   Administration                                                              
(EDA).   There  are a  couple of  loan  funds, such  as the  Small                                                              
Business  Economic Development  (SBED) Fund,  that are managed  in                                                              
that way.  She  noted that the division has been  working with EDA                                                              
to  unify  management between  the  two  funds.   There  are  some                                                              
geographic restrictions  on certain aspects of the  funds, and the                                                              
division wants to  make the fund available statewide  so that they                                                              
don't  have to  be managed  separately.   In  further response  to                                                              
Chair  Herron,  Ms.  Ayers  said   that  she  could  provide  more                                                              
information on specific loans at a later date.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:40:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON, referring  to slide 18, asked if there  is a certain                                                              
sector  of  economic   development  that  is  in   delinquency  or                                                              
foreclosure.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS  related   that  a  number  of   fisheries  enhancement                                                              
accounts  have  went  into delinquent  status  and  interest  only                                                              
payments  have  been  taken in  order  to  work  out some  of  the                                                              
revenue issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON  recalled  that  last  year  he  and  Representative                                                              
Austerman   put  forth  an   effort  to   establish  an   economic                                                              
development  commission.    He  asked  if  the  administration  is                                                              
considering such.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL  said that  she  recognized that  although  the                                                              
legislation  forming  such a  commission  last year  didn't  pass,                                                              
interest  remained.   Therefore,  the  department  has turned  its                                                              
focus  from  whether or  not  a  commission  should be  formed  to                                                              
enhancing the effectiveness of the department's program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON  asked  then  if the  department  and  the  governor                                                              
thought  it's  better  to  build  within rather  than  to  have  a                                                              
broader overarching commission.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL   said  that  the  department   recognizes  the                                                              
concern   regarding  the   effectiveness   of  DCCED's   programs.                                                              
Therefore,  the  department  has  reviewed,  within  its  existing                                                              
capacity, how to deliver the most effective programs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON expressed  the  need for  there  to be  coordination                                                              
such that  [the Division  of Community  & Regional Affairs]  staff                                                              
works  with  the client  and  his/her  peer  in [the  Division  of                                                              
Economic Development] to assist the client.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:45:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HERRON then  inquired as to why there is an  increase in the                                                              
base for the Division of Economic Development.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  answered that  part of  the funding  is related  to the                                                              
one-time  increment last  year for  a  business outreach  officer.                                                              
The  business outreach  officer  has  been deemed  very  valuable,                                                              
particularly with  coordination of  complex projects  that involve                                                              
multiple  agencies  and  require   ongoing  involvement  from  the                                                              
Division  of  Economic  Development.     Therefore,  part  of  the                                                              
funding  would  go toward  funding  that  position on  an  ongoing                                                              
basis.    Additionally, some  of  the  funding  will go  toward  a                                                              
position  that was  formerly  funded  at 70  percent  funded by  a                                                              
reimbursable  services  agreement  (RSA)  through  the  governor's                                                              
office.   Moreover,  last  year's  funding only  provided  partial                                                              
funding for  a development  specialist position  that was  focused                                                              
on minerals.   The [division's] funding for existing  staff levels                                                              
was significantly down  in fiscal year (FY) 10, and  thus most [of                                                              
the  increase]  will  restore full  funding  for  those  personnel                                                              
services for those positions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:47:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MUNOZ  inquired  as to  the  makeup  and  the role  of  the                                                              
Economic Advisory Council in working with the department.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL   opined  that  the  department   felt  it  was                                                              
important to  have a  group of individuals  with some  continuity.                                                              
The  council has  representatives from  various industry  sectors.                                                              
The  desire,   she  related,  was   to  have  supportive,   candid                                                              
individuals that  were representative of the  state geographically                                                              
as well  as representative  of the industries  in the state.   The                                                              
first meeting  of the Economic  Advisory Council was  in September                                                              
when  the  department  was  in   the  process  of  developing  its                                                              
legislative  proposals  and  budget.     At  that  stage,  it  was                                                              
premature  for  the department  to  share  its concepts  with  the                                                              
council,  but in  early  December  the department  approached  the                                                              
council  to  broadly  describe   some  of  the  ideas  related  to                                                              
economic development  within the Division of  Economic Development                                                              
and other  agencies within the  department.  She  anticipated that                                                              
the  council would  meet quarterly.   While  the [department]  has                                                              
increased  its   engagement  with  various   economic  development                                                              
organizations  and private  businesses throughout  the state,  she                                                              
felt it  would be valuable  to have some  continuity from  a group                                                              
and  receive  feedback  regarding the  department.    Commissioner                                                              
Bell  related that  she  has been  pleased  with  the council  and                                                              
anticipates continuation of it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS  added  that  in  addition  to  the  Economic  Advisory                                                              
Council,  the  Minerals  Commission  and  Alaska  Travel  Industry                                                              
Association  (ATIA)  as well  as  other industry  sectors  provide                                                              
feedback on initiatives  being considered by the  division and the                                                              
department.    She  mentioned  that   the  division  has  received                                                              
positive  feedback  and is  seeking  more  feedback to  shape  its                                                              
economic development efforts.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:50:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER expressed  interest  in the  makeup of  the                                                              
Economic Advisory Council.   He asked if the  seats are designated                                                              
or open.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL related  that  the department  made  a list  of                                                              
individuals it thought  would be constructive and  candid and then                                                              
reviewed  these  individuals  in  terms of  the  organizations  in                                                              
which they  were involved  as well  as their geographic  location.                                                              
The council  is a group  the department  formed for itself,  so it                                                              
doesn't have  a statutory basis  and the members  aren't appointed                                                              
by the  governor.   The council  is asked  to be the  department's                                                              
sounding board.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:51:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  inquired  as  to  what  the  department's                                                              
measures of success will be with regard to this new division.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL  answered that  the  department  is working  on                                                              
[measuring the  success].   The number of  loans and  jobs created                                                              
are  measured.   Commissioner Bell  related that  there have  been                                                              
candid  discussions  with  the  administrative  services  director                                                              
regarding  the need  to review  existing  performance measures  to                                                              
determine  if  DCCED   is  focusing  on  the   appropriate  items.                                                              
Internally,   the  department   has   identified,   but  not   yet                                                              
implemented, the need  to review what indicators should  be set to                                                              
determine  where  the  department  and  the  state  are  making  a                                                              
difference  in the  economy.   She indicated  that the  department                                                              
reviews  things  within  its  purview   as  well  as  outside  its                                                              
purview,  such   as  infrastructure,  roads,   communication,  and                                                              
public  safety.    Those  areas  within  the  department's  charge                                                              
include  how the  state  markets  itself as  well  as the  state's                                                              
environmental  and regulatory tax  policy.   The department  has a                                                              
role  in  advising  where  the state  is  going  via  departmental                                                              
proposals   and  how   that's  communicated   with  the   business                                                              
community,   whether   it's   inside   or   outside   the   state.                                                              
Commissioner Bell  indicated that the department  will bring forth                                                              
more specific measures.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:54:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  remarked that he is intrigued  by the idea                                                              
of cluster-based investment and the Alaska Forward Initiative.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  related that  the Alaska  Forward Initiative  has taken                                                              
many years  to mobilize, and began  with directors of  the various                                                              
ARDORs  wanting  to  have  a  comprehensive  economic  development                                                              
strategy  for  the  state.   Over  the  course  of  several  years                                                              
funding was initially  obtained through the Denali  Commission and                                                              
last  year the  state contributed  funding.   The ARDOR  directors                                                              
have  continued  to   lead  the  effort.    She   noted  that  the                                                              
leadership  council  has  been  developed  with  lots  of  private                                                              
sector  representatives  who will  shape  the  next phase  of  the                                                              
Alaska Forward Initiative.   The idea of cluster-based  investment                                                              
goes back  to the  notion that there  are a  lot of resources  but                                                              
the  success will  be contingent  upon  the ability  to align  and                                                              
move  the resources  in  a coordinated  fashion.   The  leadership                                                              
council has  identified the  following five  priority areas:   the                                                              
oil and  gas industry, the  tourism industry, alternative  energy,                                                              
advanced   business   systems,   and   international   trade   and                                                              
logistics.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:56:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DICK informed  the committees  that over  the last                                                              
44 years  he has lived  in very small  communities in  Alaska, the                                                              
largest  of which  was 350  people.   He expressed  the desire  to                                                              
talk with  the department  regarding how to  reach all  the people                                                              
in all  the communities.   Often, there  are very ambitious  folks                                                              
in  these  small  communities  who   would  never  hear  what  the                                                              
department  is doing  if the department  only  spoke to the  local                                                              
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:57:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  highlighted that  what has been  useful for                                                              
the House  Community and  Regional Affairs  Standing Committee  in                                                              
the past,  has been the various  reports the department  develops.                                                              
For  instance, the  report  on the  price of  fuel  has been  very                                                              
helpful.   She  then  opined  that it  would  be useful  for  this                                                              
committee  to have  a good working  knowledge  of where in  Alaska                                                              
there are problems.   She further opined that it  would be helpful                                                              
for the committee to know the departmental overlaps.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL thanked Representative  Cissna for  recognizing                                                              
the value of  DCCED's reports.  She indicated  that the department                                                              
will  seek   input  regarding   on  which   topics  it   would  be                                                              
appropriate to focus.   With regard to the overlap  of departments                                                              
and  working  across departments  and  divisions,  representatives                                                              
from DCCED  and various  other departments  and organizations  are                                                              
going to  travel to  one of  the leading  mineral trade  shows and                                                              
conferences.   Commissioner  Bell  opined  that [the  departments]                                                              
are most effective when they pull together.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:01:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  said that  the investment  credit  system                                                              
under  Alaska's  Clear and  Equitable  Share  (ACES) is  not  well                                                              
understood.   She  noted  that Commonwealth  North  is offering  a                                                              
series  of  presentations, at  which  one  of the  presenters,  an                                                              
independent explorer,  stated that  Alaska's tax incentive  credit                                                              
system is one of  the best in the world.   She  further noted that                                                              
a  former  commissioner  has  related  to  her  that  the  state's                                                              
biggest  problem   is  that  it's   not  marketing   Alaska's  tax                                                              
incentive credit system.   She opined that in her  view ACES isn't                                                              
just  about  the  state  take,   it's  also  about  getting  small                                                              
independent explorers  in the mix  and to do  so in a  manner that                                                              
offers a  meaningful opportunity.   She questioned what  the state                                                              
is doing and/or what it should do.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  answered that although  oil and  gas isn't part  of the                                                              
division's portfolio,  it is a core industry  that's considered in                                                              
terms of  how it shapes  other opportunities  and questions.   Ms.                                                              
Ayers  said  that Representative  Gardner's  question  illustrates                                                              
what's  required   in  every  development  opportunity;   that  is                                                              
businesses want to  know the state's tax regime,  regulations, and                                                              
the  available  economic  foundations.     The  pivotal  role  the                                                              
Division  of  Economic  Development  can play  is  navigating  the                                                              
state's system,  illustrating the opportunities within  the state,                                                              
and  communicating the  aforementioned  to the  private sector  in                                                              
language it can  understand.  The division can and  should take on                                                              
the role  of the  marketing and  communications piece  of economic                                                              
development.    The  division  is  trying  to  do  so  within  its                                                              
existing statutory authority.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:05:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER then  asked  if the  Division of  Economic                                                              
Development  is taking  this matter  up or should  she discuss  it                                                              
with another agency.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL related  that  the department  believes it  can                                                              
serve  a broader  role by  looking at  what the  state should  and                                                              
could  do  in   terms  of  financing,  research,   marketing,  and                                                              
business   and  technical   assistance  and   coordination.     By                                                              
organizing  with  industry expertise  internally,  the  department                                                              
believes it can serve statewide needs more effectively.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  again inquired as to who  should be pushed                                                              
to do actual oil and gas marketing to the independents.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS remarked  that  it would  be  a great  conversation  to                                                              
continue  throughout   this  session   with  regard   to  existing                                                              
industries  and  emerging  opportunities.   The  [division]  would                                                              
like to  do more and  the resources to  do more marketing,  but at                                                              
this point  the department  is 90  days into  the merger  and will                                                              
have more of a story in the future.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL related  that each department  is talking  with                                                              
business  leaders in the  oil and  gas industry.   She  offered to                                                              
take  Representative  Gardner's  comments  to  her  colleagues  in                                                              
order  to ensure  that  policies  are being  clearly  articulated.                                                              
With  regard to  marketing  and communication,  Commissioner  Bell                                                              
characterized that  as a growing  role for DCCED that  wouldn't be                                                              
limited to certain industry sectors.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  stated that she would like  Alaska to have                                                              
a solid  and  unequivocal role  in trade  industry conventions  in                                                              
terms of marketing opportunities in Alaska.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:09:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  opined that much of this has  to do with                                                              
the legislature  itself,  no matter the  resource being  marketed.                                                              
He noted  that most other states  have their own  marketing entity                                                              
that  markets the  state  as a  place to  do  business.   However,                                                              
Alaska  hasn't  done   so.    He  recalled  that   last  year  the                                                              
legislature  placed $17 million  into tourism  marketing  and $2.5                                                              
million  into  the  Alaska  Seafood  Marketing  Institute  (ASMI).                                                              
Representative  Austerman  then  suggested  that  the  legislature                                                              
needs  to  come  together  to  market Alaska  as  a  place  to  do                                                              
business, no  matter the industry.   Furthermore,  the legislature                                                              
has to  come together  to fund this  marketing because  it's going                                                              
to be very difficult  to market the state with  the current funds.                                                              
He  noted  that this  conversation  has  also  been had  with  the                                                              
Senate.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  said that he  was happy to see  that energy                                                              
is being  considered  part of economic  development.   As  the co-                                                              
chair of  the House  Special Committee  on Energy,  Representative                                                              
Foster encouraged  the department representatives to  let him know                                                              
if his committee  can help in any  way.  With regard  to the trade                                                              
show  departmental staff  will  be attending,  he  inquired as  to                                                              
what  kinds  of marketing  and  education  is  done.   He  further                                                              
inquired as  to whether  there's a  packet or presentation  that's                                                              
used for these trade shows.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  explained  that due to  the volume  of information  the                                                              
minerals  industry  needs, the  department  would  provide a  disc                                                              
with  information   regarding  mineral  potential,   the  tax  and                                                              
regulatory  regime, as well  as workforce  opportunities.   It's a                                                              
fairly  comprehensive package,  which  she offered  to provide  to                                                              
all members.   Additionally,  at this  particular trade  show, the                                                              
department  will focus  on rare  earth  element opportunities  for                                                              
which the  Department of  Natural Resources  has produced  a thumb                                                              
drive with pertinent information.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  noted that he is glad to hear  of the focus                                                              
on rare  earth element  opportunities in  Alaska, particularly  in                                                              
light of China's current stance.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HERRON requested  information  on the  governor's  proposed                                                              
legislation, HB  119, specifically in  terms of the  definition of                                                              
"relating   to  the   definition   of  'own'   for  the   economic                                                              
development account."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   BELL  reminded   the  committee   that  last   year                                                              
legislation passed  that allowed AIDEA  to own part of  a project.                                                              
After  the passage  of that  legislation  last year,  the need  to                                                              
have  specific  language  to  allow  AIDEA  to  participate  in  a                                                              
limited  liability company  (LLC)  and other  business  structures                                                              
was pointed  out.   Therefore, the language  in HB 119  identified                                                              
by  Chair Herron  was  included  as well  as  language that  would                                                              
explore the ability of AIDEA having new market tax credits.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:17:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked  if  the  merger  of  the  agencies                                                              
within DCCED  caused any  administrative, personnel,  or budgetary                                                              
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS  responded that  the  division  is  in the  process  of                                                              
reviewing  efficiencies,  including going  from  two directors  to                                                              
one director while  also having a management team  that includes a                                                              
manager  of the  development section  and  the financing  section.                                                              
The  division is  also  reviewing efficiencies  while  maintaining                                                              
the integrity  of the  budget for  the individual  sections.   The                                                              
aforementioned may  largely come in allocating those  costs in the                                                              
coding  process   for  accounting.     In   further  response   to                                                              
Representative Saddler,  Ms. Ayers said  that at this  point there                                                              
has been no net change with regard to geographic parity.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN  asked  if international  trade  remains                                                              
within DCCED.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BELL  answered  that  the  Office  of  International                                                              
Trade  is housed  within  the  governor's  office.   However,  she                                                              
highlighted the need  for that office to work  closely with DCCED.                                                              
To  that end,  the department  requested the  governor task  DCCED                                                              
with a  long-term strategy  that reviewed  the department's  trade                                                              
missions,   emerging    markets,   existing    markets/activities,                                                              
infrastructure  needs,  workforce  training needs,  and  marketing                                                              
needs.   She emphasized that  trade missions  are just a  piece of                                                              
the  aforementioned.   The department  has  begun to  meet and  is                                                              
ensuring  that DCCED  is communicating  with  state and  community                                                              
entities   while   also  performing   private   sector   outreach.                                                              
Commissioner Bell  opined that it's  imperative for DCCED  to work                                                              
with the Office of International Trade.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS,  in  further  response  to  Representative  Austerman,                                                              
informed  the committees  that the Office  of International  Trade                                                              
has  two trade  specialist positions  that are  supervised by  the                                                              
governor's office director in Anchorage.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:21:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MUNOZ  asked if the  new financing  tools will be  housed in                                                              
the new  division.  With regard  to the microloan  revolving fund,                                                              
Chair  Munoz asked  if there  are restrictions  on the  businesses                                                              
that can apply.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  indicated that the new  financing tools will  be housed                                                              
in the new division.   The microloan revolving fund  is modeled on                                                              
a SBA  microloan program  that isn't  available in Alaska  because                                                              
there  isn't an  intermediary  lender  to implement  the  program.                                                              
Therefore, there  aren't any restrictions on the  type of business                                                              
that can apply  and thus the microloan revolving  fund provides an                                                              
opportunity  to have  a financing  tool that's  available in  most                                                              
other  states in  Alaska.   Although she  couldn't anticipate  the                                                              
traffic  of  this loan,  rural  areas  and small  businesses  have                                                              
related the  need to have a  financing tool that focuses  on their                                                              
marketing  opportunities  and the  scale  of  those.   In  further                                                              
response  to  Chair  Munoz,  the  legislation  for  the  revolving                                                              
microloan fund is HB 121.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:23:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MUNOZ  thanked the department  for the presentation  and its                                                              
responsiveness   to  the   input,   particularly   the  input   of                                                              
Representatives Austerman  and Herron and the House  Community and                                                              
Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:24:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BELL introduced DCCED staff in attendance.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   MUNOZ  encouraged   committee  members   to  contact   her                                                              
regarding ideas  for presentations  or a particular  direction for                                                              
the committee  to pursue.   She  reviewed the  requests the  House                                                              
Community  and Regional  Affairs  Standing  Committee has  already                                                              
received as well as its upcoming agenda.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the committees,  the joint                                                              
meeting  of the  House  Community  and Regional  Affairs  Standing                                                              
Committee   and   the   House  Special   Committee   on   Economic                                                              
Development,  International  Trade and  Tourism  was adjourned  at                                                              
9:26 a.m.                                                                                                                       

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